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  Quick introduction

  by OzGirl in

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  2. friends

  only have a few minutes to spare so thought i would throw this together.. been in for about 30 years.

  questions and doubts gathered over that time.

  i have a keen interest in the legal and financial matters of the watchtower.. came across this site about 5 years ago.

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  Hi Ozgirl!  Welcome, and please, if you have any insights into their business/ legal aspects, or have any interesting things we may not know about, but need to think about...  pllllleeeeeaaassseee share them...  

  Thx... ChaChing
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  The Fear mongering of this weeks WT study!

  by stuckinarut2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  have you all read this weeks study article?.

  oh my word it is full of fear inducing tactics....doom and gloom outlooks.... anxiety inducing methods to develop absolute control over witnesses and cripple them in any attempt to think for themselves!.

  (notice i am saying "themselves" rather than "ourselves"?!

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  My bet?  I think that they are starting their next propaganda campaign..  They always start years & years earlier....

  They are trying to get these "meeting in the basements of private homes" pictures to look normal to JW's...   Then, when the WT sells off the K Halls, and the poor rank & file have lost their investment, they will feel "special" as they meet together in a 'basement' of someone's home...   

  It will prove to them that "the slave" was once again 'right.'
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  GB says, "Our way of worship will soon be altered."

  by Separation of Powers in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mom called me yesterday to ask how i was doing.

  i hadn't seen her in a while, so it was nice to hear her voice.

  we went through the motions of jw small talk and then she started telling me about her co visit from last week.

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  Phunny, Phizzy!
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  Display of National Flags in Kingdom Halls in Chile: WTS' Response

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember this and other threads a few months back, on the subject that some kingdom halls in chile acquiesced to govt rules that every building should display the national flag on the day of celebration?.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/262505/kingdom-hall-chile-has-national-flag?size=20&page=1.

  many of us here and around the net, calling on our dub experiences cried "never would that happen!

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  This is just like the "you can't have an organ transplant or you are a cannibal" and the reversal not long after.... "Oh well, they will be resurrected"      

  People didn't just "die" in Malawi, they were beaten, starved, chased from their homes, raped.

  15. Why were the Christian witnesses of Jehovah barbarically mistreated in Malawi, and what quality of faith did they manifest?

  *** w70 4/1 pp. 218-219 pars. 15-16

  When Building Disciples, Motivate the Heart ***

  15 As recently as October 1967, the refusal to join a particular political party and the failure to carry a party card identifying one with the party, resulted in a barbaric wave of torture heaped upon Jehovah’s witnesses in the Central African country of Malawi. An unknown number of women witnesses of Jehovah were raped. Forty of these were pregnant. Due to the way they were abused, each one suffered a miscarriage. Because they refused to buy a political card, they were beaten severely, sexually assaulted and their property was destroyed. Yet President Banda of Malawi could not get them to break integrity and renounce their God Jehovah. These Witnesses were motivated from the heart. They had true Christian qualities built in them.

  16 When a Christian witness of Jehovah of Ntifinyire Village was beaten for refusing to purchase a political card, Banda’s youths took a knife and made cuts encircling his arms and then his legs and inflicted many cuts on his head. Other Witnesses had six-inch nails driven into their feet, bicycle spokes were forced through their legs and then these Christians were told to run. Still others were tortured with a burning stick placed against their arms, legs, head and entire body. Still these Witnesses refused to compromise their religious beliefs or deny their God Jehovah under such barbaric torture. Do you have the quality of Christian endurance in you to stand such tests? You may be called upon someday to prove your faith. How will your faith stand up?

  16. (a) What other trials did Jehovah’s witnesses in Malawi suffer? (b) What questions should we ask ourselves, and why?

  Let's ask this question:  Why did Garrett Losch refuse to appear before the United States Court when he merely received a deposition? Would he have been abused? Raped? Cut with a knife all over his body? Get his property taken from him? Have six inch nails driven into his feet?  Did he have enough faith? Why not show that he has "complete trust in Jehovah" and show the 'Christian quality of endurance'?

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/zalkin-lopez-trial-court-documents/

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/Lopez-16Plaintiff-Reply-to-Mtn-for-Sanctions-4-25-14.pdf

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  
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  Just ask simple questions and make street witnesses move along

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  you don't have to know much to talk to jw's and show them they don't want to really discuss the matters.they consider a discussion on the matter they are pushing to be "confrontational.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfw_txpmsj8.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0lqtadagucq.

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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BWppCPV24

  
  

  
  
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  I hope Armageddon doesn't come before the new Star Wars movie comes out

  by Zoos in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  ever had this thought about an upcoming movie?.

  and then i would feel guilty for putting my entertainment desires ahead of god's kingdom.. .

  shameless!.

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  HaHa!  We totally were hoping that Armageddon would not come before the second movie!  Our hopes and dreams exactly!
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  JW's Don't Really Believe Satan is Real ...

  by TTATTelder in

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  2. beliefs

  if you walked up to any jw and said "i just spoke to satan" they would think you lost your mind.

  while that reaction makes perfect sense in the real world, in wt land it doesn't add up.

  here's why i say this -jw's are supposed to believe the following:.

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  Funny, just yesterday, my sister said the very same thing to me... 'JW's believe in Satan, warn about Satan, tell you about 'second hand items' and their 'link' with Satan/ demons, but the minute you start telling a story of what happened to YOU?   Their eyes start staring blankedly, their voice gets shaky and they start backing up away from you. ' 
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  New WTS end date - 2034?

  by campaign of hate in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so i already made an introductory thread where i said hello and mentioned my feelings toward 2034 being the wts new end date.. we get the year 2034 from matt 24:37 & luke 17:26. the wt commented on the "days of noah" in a qfr article 2010 12/15.

  where its stated: "it is logical, therefore, to conclude that genesis 6:3 expresses gods resolve to end the corrupt system of things on earth.

  jehovah issued a judicial decree to do so in 120 years, though noah was not yet aware of that.

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  Oh Blondie... I so remember the days... and yes, they WT loves to put the blame on the people 'who never doubted a word they said.' ..... wait.... Did the WT say it? or did the publishers make it up...... yes, that is the game.
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  Conti Appeal Preview - Oral Argument Jan 14

  by Chaserious in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with hopefully a good deal of interest here in the conti appeal tomorrow (or later today, depending on where you are), i thought that on my ride home from work tonight i'd preview what to expect and what i think the key issues are for any who are interested.

  i have had a busy few weeks and haven't had time to read everything, but i had some time to look at the appeal briefs during my work commute the past couple days.

  it'll be interesting to see what develops out of the network news coverage of this case.

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  Data-Dog... good connection of the dots...

  Sometimes it is hard to put in words these obscured realities that affect so many lives, especially if one has not been an elder, read the BOE's letters, elder's books, or dealt with "the Society" directly.  

  So many people have not seen what goes on behind 'the curtain.'
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  LuckyNun is back

  by LuckyNun in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  long time no see.. so, since i last posted on here, jws drove my sister to attempt suicide again (she failed, but it was close) and drove my close childhood friend to actually commit suicide.

  i too kmy sister in and helped her recover.

  i think she's going to pull through.

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  cha ching

  So sorry for your sad and oh so hard life.  Hugs....